Extend rear leg on the BS and shift to right leg. What I witnessed has me hoping this tournament crashes and burns in tremendous fashion. Remember to hit that LIKE button if you enjoyed it :) NEW VIDEO EVERY DAY ON MY CHANNEL-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------My Links:Facebook http://bit.ly/PFGolfFacebookTwitter http://bit.ly/PFGolfTwitterInstagram https://instagram.com/peterfinch/ Web http://bit.ly/PFGolfPro----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Download the Pin Seekerz app here!iPhone: http://bit.ly/1BIhrnH Android: http://bit.ly/1BIhrnH I deliver straight talking, easy to follow, honest, professional, calculated advice to all of my viewers from beginner to tour pro. The golf setup is the foundation for a golf swing and getting setup to make a golf swing is probably as important as creating the proper foundation on which to build a building. Its about finding what works for your body type. I also checked out Craig Stadler's, and he, too, is very steep. Much appreciated! Good read to get some insight. [/quote] Secondly, with arm laying on top of chest, the arm does not need to roll out around the chest as we go back in backswing. If you have any suggestions to help my setup, particularly the hip issue, Id appreciate it. I also used to waggle my hips forward and back slightly before setting my weight to the back foot and beginning my take-away. Due to this reason, shaft-length will often be standard or slightly shorter than standard (1-2cm less than std) since the chest is bowed over closer to the ground and lie angle just be standard. There's space between your chest and chin that I'm betting your left arm will fit in just fine -- but you have to add some "up" to your swing. Experienced, low-handicap players usually have this figured out, so its not a big deal. You may like to check the word fanny This tried and tested method of coaching has helped many golfers achieve their personal goals and beyond But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. Thanks Jean. Lookup member hstead and his progress threadbiggest upper body of any golfer I've seen Hope this helps you can always sign-up for an online lesson if you have a way to send me some video. I don't care what guys say, [b]the way they describe the pivot, with right side extension and left side tilting was brilliant for me. 3 Wood: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 15* w/ Hzrdus Yellow 6.5 76g But it does simplify the golf swing to the bare essentials and the closer you can get to this action the better your swing and the results will be. Mizuno S18 5310+5812/PX 6.0 Your left arm is probably already touching your left pec at address after 900 it just rides up a bit. Being Gumby isn't all its cracked up to be. I have just started learning from your video 3 days ago and doing really well with the irons using your grip (was using interlocking) immediately went from slicing the ball to a straight ball flight with added distance 20yards. Much more like my old two-knuckle stance. The attendees were terrible, would rather party than appreciate golf. A good fit should leave the clubhead resting on the ground with the toe of the club just slightly up in the air. I've been playing golf about 15 years and have been as low as an 8 handicap, but currently rest at 13. Rotating Your Chest PROPERLY In A Golf Swing - YouTube I think it is also harder to keep your arms in front of you. Yes, the word Fanny can be used in a different context here in Oz but I dont believe anyone would be offended. 2023 JM Eagle LA Championship (April 27-30), Moi matched my iron set, now living on the heel, Diamana PD 50TX; Diamana TB 80TX; Cleveland RTX6 Zipcore 52/10; Best Grip Microperf Midsize Augusta grips. Check the midpoint position of your backswing in front of a mirror from the down-the-line view. I told Dan my first trip "I want to swing like Smock" lol. If anyone has a short armed ( longer arms change the dynamics of the swing) big chested golfer they can show id be gratefully. We teach this on day one to every beginner we encounter, and they dont think this game is so hard to learn. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/881764-latest-swing-changes-post-jacksonville-updated-10-29-13/. When I watch the professionals most dont seem to have such a position, in fact they look a little slouched and bent over in the upper thoracic/neck area (Phil, Ernie Els). Herman, Hi Herman, Your email address will not be published. Your previous content has been restored. MASSIVE CHEST ROTATION GOLF SWING! - YouTube But a disadvantage is that you better have a short swing and not let your arms run off or you are in trouble. My chest is thicker than average and after laying my arms over my chest in the set up I have to bend over farther than normal in order to get my arms to hang freely. [quote name='LaterOn61' timestamp='1385085653' post='8187280'] Lol. Herman, Great Job on the videos ,I live in Greensboro and am lefty,Iwill be calling for a lesson soon . Never heard that term before. That sucks. Also, I think width is more important for a big guy vs depth. Next, attach the right hand to the club. I feel you are great instructor so I want to stay with your teaching entirely now. Hey Herman, I tried your suggestion regarding the left arm and bringing it in front of your body at address so the tricep is up against the front of the chest. Can you give me some advice? Kind regards Rob. Thanks for the tip for arm on top .it fixed me overnight I am even drawing the ball again or dead straight.. Like this? As for the swing, I really just focus on keeping my arms straight to keep the club in front of me, make sure I tilt left going back so my head doesn't move too far to my right, and then coming down I try to get my body rotating fast. Otherwise, I setup open and hit pull hooks or if I compensate with open stance a push/slice . But because of a bad foundation, its just a tourist attraction now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaCMiAslT_k, Turn the mass Another huge discovery. Any swing suggestions? The clubhead has so far to travel (up to 16 feet from top of arc to impact) it is too easy for hips to outrun the clubhead and leave it open like a baseball batter late on a pitch. Thanks for the comments, Mike. Over time, not playing nearly as much as my kids grew up, I lost the muscle memory for my natural stance. That sets the ball itself just slightly left of your zipper. I'm a short stocky guy , I'm not sure exactly what you mean. One-Piece is a term used to describe moving the hands, arms and club as a single unit with no hinge in the early phases of backswing. Should l try to widen my back swing or do you feel l should play with what l have got? Watch the 2nd video starting at the 2:00 mark, no forcibly twisting of the lower spine. Thanks for the compliments fellas. If I put myself at the top of my swing with left hand in waiters tray position and a flat right wrist and just let my natural swing fall.I always arrive with an open club face. Its never too late to figure it out and start getting better. good luck and stay in touch. Thanks Herman! Scotty Cameron Phantom X 5.5 Make sure: (1) Your left leg gently bumps the wall as you start down, and (2) the back of your left hand faces the wall as it comes down in front of. I can relate to you on that one brother! Swing tips for senior golfers: As natural as throwing a ball Head to our competitions page to enter. [/quote] [media=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaCMiAslT_k[/media] I meant closed stance in my post. Ping G430 Max 10.5 Fujikura Ventus Velocore Blue 6X What would be the best way to know exactly how they should be (for instance If I point my club straight out from my belt buckle to I maintain that exact angle in my wrists?) Thanks for the great video. I have longer arms so my tendency is, as mentioned above, arm run off and a steep downswing. That sucks. 2 & 4 iron: Callaway X Utility 18* & 24* w/ Project X Pxi 6.0 yup, great stretches. If you are going to try to get more width, you will likely have to turn your torso and shoulders farther back to get that right arm off your body. Heres how to setup correctly for a right-handed golfer. It was an aha moment and instant. For lie angle you must get checked hitting a shot from a lie board as the dynamics of swinging often look different than the setup positions. that's pretty big. It isnt as easy as that, of course. If the lead arm is sitting on the side of the body, the chest is in the way of starting a proper takeaway and backswing. 1. I wish I lived in NC so I could come take some lessons from you! Ive been trying for years to develop a consistent set up and swing and am every so grateful that Ive been hermanized. Thanks a million. Cant wait to apply this into my routine so all the other tips and compensations might not be needed. It was all "around." Now, this is not possible for all golfers due to age, suppleness, or injury. P770 5-P hit is with so much authority I got down to 215lbs about ten years ago and I looked like I had AIDS, wearing 36" jeans. The basics of a good golf swing, explained in 2 simple moves - Golf Digest I'm flexible: can do the seated toe touch, and can turn my shoulders 90 degrees from my waist. In Australia it has a very different meaning which would offend many people. Your previous content has been restored. No, you just pick the ball up and throw it in one natural movement and without a thought. Matt Smith I was wondering if you set-up any differently with fairway woods and hybrids? The volunteers (not enough of them) didn't give a . Next, well add to the setup by talking about preshot routine. First I must say you are one hell of an instructor. Let the club fall half way down from bending at the hips, then let the wrists uncock enough to finish lowering the club to the ground. The problem all along has been the foundation. The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. You will be extending the hands, arms, club in a manner that appears to be going straight back from the ball while the body is making a coordinated pivot all parts moving together. Pete, you are right on track. This post is 4years old now but the same issues remain for some of us. Shift your weight onto your front foot and begin to rotate your hips toward the target. So, I went with a neutral grip. 2. I think it is also harder to keep your arms in front of you. Thanks for the great site and videos. A neutral grip makes it all too easy to let arm sit on the side of the chest. When bowing toward the ball, do you retain wrist cock as when held at belt buckle height? Dare I say a more stack-n-tilt backswing has help me tremendously, but I won't get into those specific "labels" here. [/quote] The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. open feet, closed shoulders) You should see great results. I can keep my knees straight and put my palms on the ground, so my back and hamstrings are way flexible. So he and co-author and pupil Simon Hawkins pieced together Now for the Back Nine. Brian Smock has a great swing and has a thick chest. They are also very dependent on impact, and just after impact body positioning, because they can't maintain the angles for long. Epic Fail. This motion gets you into a fully coiled position at the top of your backswing. My short arms relative to chest are a major issue, I can't get my left arm across my chest, too much space between left arm and chest, and then can't get right elbow in front of right hip,it bounces off my gut and upper chest.. I actually hit the ball farther when I weigh about 225lb., which has been a while. [quote name='Hstead' timestamp='1386383819' post='8261327'] Get it wrong, and it wont matter how well you build everything else. Thanks for commenting. Thanks. I Just wanted to say hello and like the way you teach. Oh wait thats not correct. Mike Adams in particular has stated that at address the left arm could set on top of the pec, not to the side, for folks with this issue. I'm flexible: can do the seated toe touch, and can turn my shoulders 90 degrees from my waist. : first of all my congratulations because your stuff is really good and has changed my game a lot. HighDraw, I am the other way around, played at 240 and now weigh 275 lol. Please note that l am hitting the ball straight with perhaps the merest hint of a draw. There are a few reasons this might be happening. Ok, cool. I assume you mean how high the hands should be at address. Peter has generously given us a copy to give away. I know youre very busy so when you get a chance to answer itll be highly appreciated. Are their set up or swing adjustments to make when thick chested? From the setup position with the clubhead resting on the ground at the center of the stance, simply shuffle over to the ball while maintaining setup posture. GIVEAWAY! I had some issues and knew something didnt feel right in set up. 2. We swing harder/faster and outrun our ability to rotate the face. It's just that there are folks who advocate that the arms don't raise at all, that your hands go up by virtue of turning your shoulders on an incline, but this thought can be damaging to folks like you and me. Thank you!!!!!!!! Imagine setting up for a 7-iron and then moving the golf ball 1 ball-width forward from there. Thanks! Ive started thinking of the old glove under the arm pit drill, except this time with the right arm. My ball position is the same as everyone else, off of right ear, left pec-ish type. The other common flaw developed out of a forward press is a tendency to take the clubhead to the inside on the takeaway. Tips for chest/hip rotation : r/golf - Reddit The Tower is tilted 10 degrees (thats 17 feet off center at the top) and has been essentially unusable for most of its existence. It's simple and very informative. Golf Setup Lesson - Foundation for a Golf Swing - Herman Williams Golf Thanks again for your amazing videos! Watching the Stadler video convinces me to go back to my natural, upright motion. I have long arms, so my swing looks a little different than a guy with short arms and a larger chest. The final step in our setup is to simply march over to the golf ball. Anyway, short, stocky, old guy here. The shoulders ideally turn at 90-degrees to the top of the swing. As for setup changes, I find that I play better with my feet pointed more right of my target but my shoulders parallel left. Try to make what amounts to a forward press with your hips and knees in the setup. Maybe in the future. If you did not rotate the arms on the backswing, you'd only be able to raise the arms to about chest level. Then repeat it with your eyes shut and try to imagine you are swinging a golf club. My swing looked ok, but it too often felt like my gears were grinding as I tried to find the slot at the top of my back-swing. TFT Coach My problem on the way down is dropping my right shoulder down too much instead of taking it out to the ball. Any advice would be wonderful. Bowing over more from the hips in the setup will allow a little more room for the arm to sit on top of chest and still comfortably hang to the ball. One quick question. Your setup helped a lot and I got to identify, using your T, that the leading edge of my club was actually 5 deg+ open all the time. Not restricting the right hip may be another way of adding a touch of height via the body turn. So if you dont trust those, stay centered. Herman. In a perfect swing, the hips should rotate from the setup position, 45-degrees away from the ball on the backswing. Your link has been automatically embedded. [/quote] [*][size=4][b]Titleist T200 5-9 KBS Tour Flt [/b][/size] I was cheating, reaching out a bit instead of tilting fully to make my right arm long enough. Great image for slicers and shorter distance golfers. I have a large chest and used to keep my left arm down my left side with the right coming over my chest. Golfers must rotate the arms - Dr. Yessis SportLab Kyle Morris So ready to give up! Required fields are marked *. I like Smocks swing too. I do have 1 question on the address you mention the golf shaft points at the belt buckle however there is a lot of info out there saying the shaft should point to left hip at address and if you look at top tour players like Rory McIlroy they do tend to have this lean of the shaft. Just a light difference in ball position. Hi Herman! One advantage is normally you can generate quite a bit of power with a short swing. Herman, Left hand literally underneath the shaft with Palm up. Hey Herman, Your description of how to fix your setup was perfect. I have a doubt regarding my stance. [/quote] More speed ? You may simply need more reps with the new stuff before it clicks. The way you explain the golf swing is clearly the best available your tip on squaring but also uncocking the left hand at impact has transformed the way I impact the ball and resulted in a straight penetrating ball flight. I usually see a lot of slouching in my clientele with lots of forward shoulder rounding especially in adult men beyond 30 years of age. It got to the point that I couldnt even find a comfortable or reliable position at address. Jack Malzahn 336.457.1642. Herman. Learn how your comment data is processed. I dont think you are doing anything wrong. And I will be doing an online lesson as soon as I get a good video. I'm looking for suggestions or thoughts about what an effective swing would be for this type of body. The clubhead will lower to the ground directly in the center of your stance, butt of club still pointed at belt buckle. I told Dan my first trip "I want to swing like Smock" lol. Those are the only setup changes I make, feet right and flared. Sub70 699U 19.5* Herman. I couldn't resist checking this thread out with the title. ENTER NOW! Plus you are more connected to the big muscles of trunk. : Variety being the "spice of life" and all that, we are not created equal in all aspects. There are definitely adjustments and considerations that need to be made with this type of build. I tend to setup comfortably in an open stance with all clubs. That type of rolling for guys that start with their arm on their side promotes open clubfaces, laid off backswings, etc. So how do we setup to make a golf swing and avoid becoming a tourist attraction like the Leaning Tower? Another thing I think I need to work on is stretching. Simply picture how the golf ball is in front of your body and the lead arm must also be in front of the body, not on the side. If you have the time, I would appreciate your thoughts on these two setup positions with the left arm and what each one promotes. Herman. Ive really enjoyed your videos, particularly the recommendation to weaken my right hand grip. A few things could be going on, so youll need to test one at a time in the following order. Do not try to sit down to get low enough if the clubs feel too short. But here are a few things to check. I certainly didn't intend it that way, so perhaps I should phrase my problem differently . I found your site last night via a you tube video and I am glad I did. I'm guessing that if your bicep gets pinned on your chest, then you have no sense of raising your arms as part of your backswing. Sorry there's no video available - maybe in the future. Squat Jump. Because of this new position over the chest I fell my irons should be flatter in order not to bend too much. elbow pointed at body/tricep on chest dates all the way back to Ben Hogan in the 50s. Thanks for the compliments and I hope you see continued improvement in your game. Elbows to chest In the clip, which you can watch in full below, Hogan suggests starting by making small swings, with your. The LAWs of the Golf Swing: Body-Type Your Golf Swing and Master Your Titleist TSi 16.5 Graphite Design AD DI 7S Most of them DO NEED to learn to let their arms swing from their shoulder sockets more. Dont worry so much about backswing for now. Ill try on the course your recomendation to set the feet slightly wider the the hips. My right shoulder sets up below the left, but my right hip is tends to get higher than the left resulting in either a vertical or reversed spine tilt. Club fitting is very important but your address and set up is key. All of the older guys I play with have lost a lot more flexibility than strength. Herman. Rock Flying Wings Golf Swing for Barrel Chested Guys like Howard The second thing: get fitted for clubs. I am working on it though. when i lift my tricep on top of my pec, i feel a lot of tension in my left arm, mainly the upper part of my arm and left shoulder, does this sound like a correct feeling ? Callaway JAWS Raw 52* 56* and 60* This classic tip is designed to create the sensation of a proper golf. Because of this, I have spent a lot of time working on steeper shoulders, i.e. What should be the distance between my heels (stance wide) for iron 7, fairway wood and Driver? Today, I wish I lived in NC! At any rate, be sure to check in a mirror to verify the look if it looks like Tiger and Rory, youre probably ok. Good luck. I am taller and thinner than you, but I spent a lot of time swinging the way it sounds you do, Not before I got in front of a mirror after reading many posts on the subject here did I realize that I had no "up" to my swing. Youd never get rid of me. In the USA is means your bum How can low point of swing be in center of stance? Hstead that line about being 215 and looking like you had AIDS just killed me. ABC123 Golf Academy Instructor, Lookup member hstead and his progress threadbiggest upper body of any golfer I've seen Good question. Hey Grant, Thanks for following my work. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. But it should be said that I spend a lot of time each day stretching. The whole coil and feel the stretch in the left lat thing don't really register on me. Swing Barrel replicates Percy Boomer's timeless lesson With golf I ALWAYS hit ground behind the ball. Good job Kevin and thanks for stopping by to comment. So my feet and shoulders do not match. [*][size=4][b][color=#0000ff]Ping G410 LST, Mitsubishi Tensei Orange Pro [/color][/b][/size] Duly noted Ill try to get some specifics soon on driving. [/quote] Regarding setup, your tip that the left arm needs to be on top of the pec makes so much sense. Subscribe: http://danwhittakergolf.com/subDWGWhat is the correct golf swing for your body type - Golf Swing Tips - DWGWe're now in the age of the quantitativ. Once the grip is established, make sure the lead arm (left arm for right-handed golfers) is sitting on top of the chest. I took a look at Jason Zuback's swing, and it appears that he goes extremely steep - in fact, his left arm about touches his neck. If it was Now for the Back Nine would be a very short book. [/b] Robert, no shortgame videos. Distance? As you reach the top of your backswing the chest should be facing pretty much straight away from your target. So if you want to fight through to a more conventional swing, your first goal has to be a solid grip and a solid release action. I know you reccomend in this video that the clubface be centered in your stance at address, but could you speak a bit about that forward shaft lean at address and whether that is something you advocate. Herman. When I considered that, I thought - maybe she's right! He's the model swing I strive for. Your advice has helped quite a bit. and it sees you, it is trembling. Never in my life could i hit a 3 iron with any power or distance and usually a huge slice.